Wanderlust
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Hi everyone,
First thanks Herman for inviting me me around. I ll start with a sketch done for the Chow 200 King of Music, on CA.org, I didn't got time to finish it unfortunately and so missed the deadline, now am planning to use it for another project. Underneath it all, it is an exercise to keep practising characters, anatomy and complex line drawing as I don't get to do that much at work. So yea no mercy on the critique please. Herman i know you will be as sharp as my grandma's tits on a december afternoon :) and i thank you for that ! -
I don't have much time at the moment for a proper critique for you, with paintover...I'm a bit behind on my freelance and trying to get everything finished up before I move :orange:
the one thing that I notice right off is that the throne isn't in line with the platform, it's shifted to one side. the platform itself isn't quite symmetrical either. when you have something so straight on, those small things become veeeery apparent/disruptive [at least to me]
Then as I got looking...there are a lot of elements that don't quite line up with each other that one would expect to be symmetrical.
the little guy standing up on the right hand side is out of perspective. we're seeing him basically from straight on, when he should be seen from above. the guitar looks too far tilted forward, but maybe it won't matter as soon as you light it, or it's supposed to be tilted?
most badass rockstars have been wearing tight pants since the 50s. the robe with music note trim is more something my music teacher from 3rd grade would wear. for someone that's 'the king' i would be expecting a lot more flash [crazy pants/shoes], and less of a skirt/barefoot motif. If you really like the more drapery stuff, I would just google some pics of george clinton. He had some pretty sweet/flashy robe outfits, but also had the dreads and etc to back up the style. with what you have going on so far, I would expect more something like what bootsy collins would wear, or maybe some more mainstream rock and roll iggy pop tight pants...
I think some of those bells could point away from the viewer, give the throne a heavier sense of depth. [ and some real 'surround sound' :P] -
That's some really useful comments Devin, when designing this character, my main focus was on creating a good base to study anatomy, drapery and perspective, so basically I didn't thought too much about the costumes, the Chow was merely an excuse to kick my ass and get it done before deadline. So it was more about putting anything that could help my rendering studies. But your comments about his costumes are totally right, i ll have to do way more research. As for the perspective, my eye is not good enough to be bothered by what you re pointing out though i ll try to work it out. Thanks.
Meanwhile, here is a little piece of enviro I ve worked on the last few days, first inspired by the EOW 144 on CA then developed for my own pleasure. I ve only used one color for this painting which was the point of the challenge this week, a very interesting exercise. Im still fixing this pic atm, mainly shapes and design elements, The compo also need some tweaks around the focal points.
Enough talk
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Ok here is what i call a failed illustration but a succesfull study. I got lost in the anatomy for too long, so I lost the main message, the main intent, the force of my original sketch. Then i did a really shitty job at rendering and coloring, too many textures, I suck at folds and clothes rendering, i don't control my light source well, and so on :) Of course, I ran out of energy and motivations to finish it . Anyway, it was for a contest about that toy Mekaneko( the black cat thingy in the middle) on ze french forum cafesale.
Neexxxxxxttttt !
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Hey that is pretty nice, however I think the biggest issue I have is the placement of the bodies in a situation where they are interacting like that - there seems to multiple inconsistencies with perspective and placement of forms in space that is flattening out the work/breaking it.
Probably good idea to move on, taking a guess here from the hair colour - is that Luka and Miku from volcaloid? :blank: (maybe volcaloid is getting to my head). -
Ok, here is a rough quick scribble over of what I'm thinking. Basically you have both of their hips next to each other on separate planes, yet their heads are both sharing the same plane. Yet their body gestures don't seem to be moving to intersect each other but rather parralel. You should either change their body vectors to intersect each other, or better yet put them together intertwining on the same plane - it would also help to heighten the sexual tension in the work.
About Luka and Miku... I'm just going crazy, but here they are basically two mascots for a vocal synth software which get redrawn in every animeish style under the sun e.g - http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm6909505 and http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=7771858 . Just saw that colour combo and it auto clicked in my brain, too much surfing around on pixiv and niconico I say.
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That's very interesting. Thanks for taking the time to scribble that. I think they could still interact by twisting their upperbody to face each other but still keep their legs separated, but maybe it's not well drawn in my drawing. Definitely puttin one girl over the other would have brought that hawtness i was looking for. Damn I dont look at enough L porn...
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the last one is nice but some reasons my eyes move around on the picture and eventually land on the mushroom mountain the middle of picture just over the low saturation high value gap, the awesome detail on left and right foreground really cancel each other out, I will make a paint over later on
the 2 girls one I will draw over later too, sorry busy on packing all week -
here is the first step for my CHOW entry this week. Going for an overenthousiastic overprepared necromancy students :) the practice of dark magic has done lots of damaged to her appearance, making her look like more of a skeleton everyday... dunno if i will have time to finish in time tough
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I make her naked, I think your one is too static and even a child's anatomy you can't ignore it
well as you try to draw 2 girls out so you don't want too much camera rotation should just point into the middle of them, about their poses they should be in the middle air so you can be aggressive on the pose, about action you should make their move more deadly like point gun and knife to the heart
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Thanks a lot herman, you make me feel so bad about my posing ahah really helpful. Im going to redo the necro following your guidelines.
For the enviro, I agree with you, there s too much going on, this is what happen when you don't plan things and do thumbnails. And do a painting over too many sessions, you keep adding following the mood you re in...
Girls pose is good though i had them seated on invisible chairs not in mid-air... but that was maybe the wrong choice to make. -
last pencil is cool but I think you can use some value to seperate the elements a bit, it is overwelming now, also drawing guys with those poses are not my taste haha
the zambie one is good make me feeling disgusting haha, but I think you draw everything too straight, and the pose of it looks like a normal human so I did a quick drawing to show what I mean
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sweet man, thanks for taking the time on the zombie. your pose are really more natural and expressive, damn of course. I m not familiar enough with the human anatomy to be able to explore expressiveness like that, spend too much time figuring out where things are...
The line drawing above was for my sisters birthday so guys in these poses are ok in that case ahah. -
i gave up on my first idea and started a more light hearted witty one for the zombie thing + here are a couple of speed paintings enviros
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